05-07-2007, 10:30 AM | #1 |
Moderator Location: 'Close, but no donut!' | Wasn’t particularly looking for one but a guy at my club offered me a hardly-used CZ 452 American at a price I could not refuse (I shall henceforth call him “The Godfather.”) Heard nothing but good things about them so thought I’d take a chance on it. I’m VERY impressed. It’s a very good looking gun; fit and finish are beautiful and it’s nice to see real walnut again instead of plastic or plywood. I’ve looked in vain for any blemish in the finish of either the wood or the metal. Barrel inletting looks tight but a piece of thin paper slid easily from one end to the other—it’s fully floated! Shot it for the first time Saturday, and ran it through Snake’s Great Cheap/Bulk Ammo Shootout. First the good news: In 255 rounds, not one single failure to feed, fire, extract, or eject. Perfect functioning, and I don't get to say that often! The bad news: Trigger is horrible on this one. Somewhere in the 5-7 pound range, it has what feels like 1/8' of creep/travel, and it's not even smooth movement. One of the worst .22 triggers I've ever shot, MUCH worse than the $50 Bingham SB-20 and the mechanically stock '66 10/22 I also had along. I MUST get that fixed before I shoot the beast again! (Afternote: Once again the crew at rimfirecentral.com came through with an easy, no-cost mod to fix it, which I did last night. Trigger is now no more than 3 pounds, with no apparent movement before the clean break. Can’t wait to shoot it again!) Test protocol: Scoped, benchrested, 25 yards, six 5-shot groups, best five groups averaged for figures below. For comparison, I'm including how each ammo shot in my other four bolt action .22s, too. Excuses/Disclaimers: Scope used has no AO--very slight parallax evident at test range. Breeze was all over the place, 0-10/12 mph and from several different directions. I shot as fast as I could pull that crappy trigger. With a clean trigger, an AO scope, and no wind, I'm sure I could knock at least ten percent off the group sizes below. Remington Golden Bullets: Anschutz 64: .207 Norinco JW-15: .326 Ruger 77/22V: .329 CZ 452: .350 Winchester 69A: .360 Winchester XPerts: Anschutz 64: .233 Ruger 77/22V: .253 Winchester 69A: .294 CZ 452: .314 Norinco JW-15: .475 Federal 510 Champions Anschutz 64: .207 Ruger 77/22V: .208 CZ 452: .211 Winchester 69A: .284 Norinco JW-15: .390 CCI MiniMags (solids): CZ 452: .215 Anschutz 64: .237 Winchester 69A: .292 Ruger 77/22V: .307 Norinco JW-15: .333 Federal Walmart Bulk: Anschutz 64: .198 (believe it or not, and yes I've backed it up) CZ 452: .313 Ruger 77/22V: 465 Norinco JW-15: .554 Winchester 69A: .587 Winchester Dynapoints: CZ 452: .170 Anschutz 64: .235 Norinco JW-15: .291 Ruger 77/22V: .307 Winchester 69A: .337 Note that the CZ actually outshot the Anschutz with two of the six ammo types, and the heavy-barreled Ruger 77/22V with three. (Furthermore, it came within .003' of equaling the performance of the 77/22V with that gun's favorite ammo, Federal Champions.) The CZ 452 shot the tightest group average I've EVER recorded: the Winchester Dyanpoints, at .170', edging out the previous champion, Rhineland R22 with CCI MiniMags, .182', and even beating the Annie 64's best (Fed Bulks at .198'). Oh yes, I LIKE this little rifle! |
Dec 02, 2007 Odds are pretty high that you can't import it into the US. There's a slight chance that it might be considered sporting, but offhand I don't remember the.
I really don't know if thois is the right forum, but here it goes:
I have a brand new JW 15 Norinco that I bought because a, I learned to shoot on a Brno #2 that my dad had way back in the 70's, and b, I can't afford a Brno or CZ, and C, the JW15 is supposed to be a knock-off of the Brno. Simple economics.
I keep hearing that there are modifications that can be made to this little .22 that are supposed to make it 'pop'. any suggestions out there?
For starters, where (if anywhere) can a guy get a decent stock for it? I have the black plastic one. Any suggestions for 'cleaning her up'? Already cleaned out that bunker crude the Chinese seem to ship everything in.